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Two Approaches to Solving the “Quiet Fediverse” Problem: Conversation Backfilling Mechanisms

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    Two Approaches to Solving the "Quiet Fediverse" Problem: Conversation Backfilling Mechanisms

    This post addresses the "quiet fediverse" problem, where users encounter fragmented conversations with missing replies in decentralized social networks. It explores the underlying causes related to the distributed nature of the ActivityPub protocol, which scatters conversations across different servers. The author delves into two primary approaches to solve this issue: reply tree crawling and the context owner-based method. Reply tree crawling involves fetching all replies to reconstruct the conversation, while the context owner method relies on a designated owner to manage and provide the complete conversation. The post examines the technical mechanisms, advantages, and disadvantages of each approach, including real-world implementations and ongoing debates within the fediverse community. It also touches on additional backfill mechanisms like periodic crawling, user-triggered backfills, and mention-based discovery. Ultimately, the author advocates for a hybrid approach that combines multiple strategies to enhance conversation completeness and user experience, highlighting the importance of ongoing standardization efforts and collaborative implementations within the fediverse. This article provides valuable insights into the challenges and potential solutions for creating a more connected and coherent social networking experience in decentralized environments.

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      This post addresses the "quiet fediverse" problem, where users encounter fragmented conversations with missing replies in decentralized social networks. It explores the underlying causes related to the distributed nature of the ActivityPub protocol, which scatters conversations across different servers. The author delves into two primary approaches to solve this issue: reply tree crawling and the context owner-based method. Reply tree crawling involves fetching all replies to reconstruct the conversation, while the context owner method relies on a designated owner to manage and provide the complete conversation. The post examines the technical mechanisms, advantages, and disadvantages of each approach, including real-world implementations and ongoing debates within the fediverse community. It also touches on additional backfill mechanisms like periodic crawling, user-triggered backfills, and mention-based discovery. Ultimately, the author advocates for a hybrid approach that combines multiple strategies to enhance conversation completeness and user experience, highlighting the importance of ongoing standardization efforts and collaborative implementations within the fediverse. This article provides valuable insights into the challenges and potential solutions for creating a more connected and coherent social networking experience in decentralized environments.

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      I think this is a good approach. I stead of dropping a message when you don't know the parents display it with a unknown parent marker. At least then you know your missing part of the conversation because of a federation issue

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