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Diagrammatic Chess (Western, Chinese, Japanese) Options around the world?

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  • J jet@hackertalks.com

    How can I have this conversation without making it sound like a advertisement? I'm not trying to drive sales of anything, which would be kinda impossible given most of this stuff is out of print.

    I'm just trying to illustrate diagrammatic chess options I'm aware of, and I want to find more. It's a very niche area. Finding more options is hard.

    I would hope by this point you would recognize me (you have voted on 259 of my posts and comments) and realize I'm not some bot.

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    quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Hhahaha you put way too much effort in describing your examples and putting them in a nice presentation, that's why looks like an ad, hahaha.

    To look less like an advertisement you can explain better why you find these interesting and spend less time with the examples.

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    • S slazer2au@lemmy.world

      I would hope by this point you would recognize me (you have voted on 259 of my posts and comments) and realize I'm not some bot.

      The fact you have stats like that make me think you are absolutely a marketing sock puppet

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      notabot@piefed.social
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      Due to the way federation works those stats are public information, and @jet@hackertalks.com appears to be an admin of their instance, so the data is even more easily to hand.

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      • J jet@hackertalks.com

        Diagrammatic Pieces define the pieces moves on the item itself. This removes the need to memorize the moveset to the symbol needed in many forms of chess

        Western Chess - Maple Landmark

        Wooden Pieces with the moves written on the bottom (so you have to lift them up to see)

        :::spoiler Maple Landmark Image

        :::

        Japanese Chess - Dobutsu Shogi (in the greenwood)

        Link Preview Image
        Dōbutsu shōgi - Wikipedia

        favicon

        (en.wikipedia.org)

        Cute animals with the moves indicated by dots around the edge of the piece, probably the best diagrammatic set I've seen

        :::spoiler Dobutsu shogi image

        :::

        Japanese Chess - Kumon Study Shogi set

        Very similiar to dobutsu shogi, but with the original character written in the middle instead of a cute animal. The wood feels good in the hand

        :::spoiler Study Shogi image

        :::

        Eastern chess sets will often have "westernized" pieces, that are different non-language characters symbols, but still require people to memorize a symbol lookup table.

        I'd love to find diagrammatic options for Chinese Chess (XongQi), but I haven't seen any - do you know of options?

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        deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works
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        #14

        OMG childhood memories unlocked.

        I remember playing this thing called 斗兽棋 that I just googled and literally can't find it for sale in the west.

        I remember playing that with my older brother

        now the brotherhood relationship no longer exists 😕 (sibling abuse)

        Its bascially an animal game, like elephant takes tiger then it goes down the list and dog can take a cat, cat can take a mouse, mouse can take an elephant (cuz it goes into the elephants ears and kills it? idk), like a hierarchy thing, with the last place killing the top animal, hard to explain, just read the rules.

        There are like art carved into the pieces that resemble the animal of what Chinese characters says.

        I think the are versions you could probably find on a Chinese website that has a more cuter depiction of the animals.

        This is like a unique thing to China I think, I don't think anyone in the west even knows about it.

        I remember having fun with it with my brother... sad that relationships never last long, no matter how close the blood is 😕

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        • N notabot@piefed.social

          Due to the way federation works those stats are public information, and @jet@hackertalks.com appears to be an admin of their instance, so the data is even more easily to hand.

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          jet@hackertalks.com
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          Plus on lemvotes they display the owning instance of a post/comment, and hackertalks.com is basically only me, so it's trivial to see how many times someone interacts with me.

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            OMG childhood memories unlocked.

            I remember playing this thing called 斗兽棋 that I just googled and literally can't find it for sale in the west.

            I remember playing that with my older brother

            now the brotherhood relationship no longer exists 😕 (sibling abuse)

            Its bascially an animal game, like elephant takes tiger then it goes down the list and dog can take a cat, cat can take a mouse, mouse can take an elephant (cuz it goes into the elephants ears and kills it? idk), like a hierarchy thing, with the last place killing the top animal, hard to explain, just read the rules.

            There are like art carved into the pieces that resemble the animal of what Chinese characters says.

            I think the are versions you could probably find on a Chinese website that has a more cuter depiction of the animals.

            This is like a unique thing to China I think, I don't think anyone in the west even knows about it.

            I remember having fun with it with my brother... sad that relationships never last long, no matter how close the blood is 😕

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            jet@hackertalks.com
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            #16

            That looks really cool! I can't find it anywhere either

            The rule set is interesting, if I ever see it i'll pick it up for sure!

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            • Q quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              Hhahaha you put way too much effort in describing your examples and putting them in a nice presentation, that's why looks like an ad, hahaha.

              To look less like an advertisement you can explain better why you find these interesting and spend less time with the examples.

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              jet@hackertalks.com
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              #17

              Yeah, my personal style of trying to be clear and complete has been co-opted by the modern bogeyman

              Much like Michael Bolton... i was here first! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADgS_vMGgzY

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              • J jet@hackertalks.com

                Diagrammatic Pieces define the pieces moves on the item itself. This removes the need to memorize the moveset to the symbol needed in many forms of chess

                Western Chess - Maple Landmark

                Wooden Pieces with the moves written on the bottom (so you have to lift them up to see)

                :::spoiler Maple Landmark Image

                :::

                Japanese Chess - Dobutsu Shogi (in the greenwood)

                Link Preview Image
                Dōbutsu shōgi - Wikipedia

                favicon

                (en.wikipedia.org)

                Cute animals with the moves indicated by dots around the edge of the piece, probably the best diagrammatic set I've seen

                :::spoiler Dobutsu shogi image

                :::

                Japanese Chess - Kumon Study Shogi set

                Very similiar to dobutsu shogi, but with the original character written in the middle instead of a cute animal. The wood feels good in the hand

                :::spoiler Study Shogi image

                :::

                Eastern chess sets will often have "westernized" pieces, that are different non-language characters symbols, but still require people to memorize a symbol lookup table.

                I'd love to find diagrammatic options for Chinese Chess (XongQi), but I haven't seen any - do you know of options?

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                7uwqkj@lemmy.world
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                #18

                Anyone who believes that children need that sort of mnemonics is vastly underestimating the mental capabilities of children. Ever played Memory against an 7-year-old?

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                • 7 7uwqkj@lemmy.world

                  Anyone who believes that children need that sort of mnemonics is vastly underestimating the mental capabilities of children. Ever played Memory against an 7-year-old?

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                  jet@hackertalks.com
                  wrote last edited by jet@hackertalks.com
                  #19

                  Oh, I don't need this to help children! I need this so I don't forget the moves myself, and to get other adults to enjoy a game or two.

                  Having a 30 something learn 15 something symbols to play a game or two to see what it is like is a big ask.

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                  There are many different types of chess out there, and as a game tourist I want to make things easy on myself. Chu Shogi has 21 different symbols for example, it's going to take a minute to memorize that, and good luck convincing someone else to memorize it to play a few games.

                  example:
                  :::spoiler chu-shogi without diagrammatic pieces vs with

                  :::

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                  • J jet@hackertalks.com

                    Diagrammatic Pieces define the pieces moves on the item itself. This removes the need to memorize the moveset to the symbol needed in many forms of chess

                    Western Chess - Maple Landmark

                    Wooden Pieces with the moves written on the bottom (so you have to lift them up to see)

                    :::spoiler Maple Landmark Image

                    :::

                    Japanese Chess - Dobutsu Shogi (in the greenwood)

                    Link Preview Image
                    Dōbutsu shōgi - Wikipedia

                    favicon

                    (en.wikipedia.org)

                    Cute animals with the moves indicated by dots around the edge of the piece, probably the best diagrammatic set I've seen

                    :::spoiler Dobutsu shogi image

                    :::

                    Japanese Chess - Kumon Study Shogi set

                    Very similiar to dobutsu shogi, but with the original character written in the middle instead of a cute animal. The wood feels good in the hand

                    :::spoiler Study Shogi image

                    :::

                    Eastern chess sets will often have "westernized" pieces, that are different non-language characters symbols, but still require people to memorize a symbol lookup table.

                    I'd love to find diagrammatic options for Chinese Chess (XongQi), but I haven't seen any - do you know of options?

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                    jet@hackertalks.com
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                    #20

                    I've acquired 4 sets of diagrammatic chess sets as of today! Western, japanese (x3)... i just need to find a sticker set for XongQi and I'll be all set.

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                    • J jet@hackertalks.com

                      Diagrammatic Pieces define the pieces moves on the item itself. This removes the need to memorize the moveset to the symbol needed in many forms of chess

                      Western Chess - Maple Landmark

                      Wooden Pieces with the moves written on the bottom (so you have to lift them up to see)

                      :::spoiler Maple Landmark Image

                      :::

                      Japanese Chess - Dobutsu Shogi (in the greenwood)

                      Link Preview Image
                      Dōbutsu shōgi - Wikipedia

                      favicon

                      (en.wikipedia.org)

                      Cute animals with the moves indicated by dots around the edge of the piece, probably the best diagrammatic set I've seen

                      :::spoiler Dobutsu shogi image

                      :::

                      Japanese Chess - Kumon Study Shogi set

                      Very similiar to dobutsu shogi, but with the original character written in the middle instead of a cute animal. The wood feels good in the hand

                      :::spoiler Study Shogi image

                      :::

                      Eastern chess sets will often have "westernized" pieces, that are different non-language characters symbols, but still require people to memorize a symbol lookup table.

                      I'd love to find diagrammatic options for Chinese Chess (XongQi), but I haven't seen any - do you know of options?

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                      jet@hackertalks.com
                      wrote last edited by jet@hackertalks.com
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                      pychess.org has modified the dobutsu shogi piece set for western chess, bless their hearts.

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                      GitHub - LuffyKudo/Doubutsu-Chess: Play chess using Dobutsu Shogi board and pieces.

                      Play chess using Dobutsu Shogi board and pieces. Contribute to LuffyKudo/Doubutsu-Chess development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                      Dobutsu Chess

                      Dobutsu Chess is a theme I created for chess. It was based on Dobutsu Shogi (どうぶつしょうぎ, Animal Shogi), a modern small variant of shogi, the Japanese cousin of chess. And now you can use this style on Lichess.org! So what are you waiting for, install it now!

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                      LuffyKudō (luffykudo.wordpress.com)

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