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      partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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      "Oh? How many of the 45 product recalls on your Charger did you fix yourself instead of taking it to the dealer?"

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        iww4@lemmy.zip
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        OMG the amount of gate keeping that goes on in car “communities” is beyond the pale, absurd and constantly shift.

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          OMG the amount of gate keeping that goes on in car “communities” is beyond the pale, absurd and constantly shift.

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          stoy@lemmy.zip
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          I saw a comment in a car thread in a general interest community that claimed that if you couldn't drive with a manual gearbox, you shouldn't be issued a license.

          I am a Swede and this was on a Swedish forum.

          Most people here knows how to drive manually, I don't, and I drive far better than plenty of manual drivers.

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            I saw a comment in a car thread in a general interest community that claimed that if you couldn't drive with a manual gearbox, you shouldn't be issued a license.

            I am a Swede and this was on a Swedish forum.

            Most people here knows how to drive manually, I don't, and I drive far better than plenty of manual drivers.

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            gnu@lemmy.zip
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            if you couldn’t drive with a manual gearbox, you shouldn’t be issued a license

            For people who've had a genuine opportunity to learn and couldn't figure it out then I would kind of support this. If someone can't figure out a basic coordination exercise then I don't really trust them to handle the controls of a couple of tons of moving vehicle.

            I do realise though that many people don't have a proper opportunity to learn (no vehicle to do so in or a poor instructor) so most get an exception from this judgement.

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              if you couldn’t drive with a manual gearbox, you shouldn’t be issued a license

              For people who've had a genuine opportunity to learn and couldn't figure it out then I would kind of support this. If someone can't figure out a basic coordination exercise then I don't really trust them to handle the controls of a couple of tons of moving vehicle.

              I do realise though that many people don't have a proper opportunity to learn (no vehicle to do so in or a poor instructor) so most get an exception from this judgement.

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              partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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              For people who’ve had a genuine opportunity to learn and couldn’t figure it out then I would kind of support this. If someone can’t figure out a basic coordination exercise then I don’t really trust them to handle the controls of a couple of tons of moving vehicle.

              I assume, to maintain consistency of your judgment, you also regularly turn off ABS, traction control, cover up the backup camera screen only turning around and looking out your back window when reversing? An electric starter also is a bit of a luxury too, right? Do you usually push your car forward with your feet and pop the clutch to start the car, or are you a true purist that uses an old school handcrank mated to the engine's crankshaft? Wouldn't these all be, matching the theme of your definition, basic coordination exercises that someone must be able to handle to control them to control a couple of tons of moving vehicle?

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                For people who’ve had a genuine opportunity to learn and couldn’t figure it out then I would kind of support this. If someone can’t figure out a basic coordination exercise then I don’t really trust them to handle the controls of a couple of tons of moving vehicle.

                I assume, to maintain consistency of your judgment, you also regularly turn off ABS, traction control, cover up the backup camera screen only turning around and looking out your back window when reversing? An electric starter also is a bit of a luxury too, right? Do you usually push your car forward with your feet and pop the clutch to start the car, or are you a true purist that uses an old school handcrank mated to the engine's crankshaft? Wouldn't these all be, matching the theme of your definition, basic coordination exercises that someone must be able to handle to control them to control a couple of tons of moving vehicle?

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                gnu@lemmy.zip
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                Wouldn’t these all be, matching the theme of your definition, basic coordination exercises

                Correct. I would not expect people to know how to do these things but I would expect a competent person to be able to learn them.

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                  Wouldn’t these all be, matching the theme of your definition, basic coordination exercises

                  Correct. I would not expect people to know how to do these things but I would expect a competent person to be able to learn them.

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                  partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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                  Well, your gatekeeping is consistent, I'll grant you that.

                  You're welcome to put your own effort into learning useless archaic skills, but I hope you can see why your opinion that other should (as determined by public policy on driving privileges) is in the minority on this. There was absolutely a time when spending time learning these things was necessary. That day has long since passed into history.

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