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The new party The Left by Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana, despite not even having an official name yet, is currently polling at 15%, and hence even with Labour

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  • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

    Without a name, platform, or organizational structure, the UK's new socialist party breaks half a million members in 3 days.

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    Corbyn also announced an all member congress this autumn to formally found the party and its ideals.

    Currently the new socialist party has surpassed Labour in Keir Starmer's district Holborn and St. Pancras, according to a new polling.

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    • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

      Corbyn also announced an all member congress this autumn to formally found the party and its ideals.

      Currently the new socialist party has surpassed Labour in Keir Starmer's district Holborn and St. Pancras, according to a new polling.

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      a tale as old as time

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        a tale as old as time

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        I will support whatever left party comes out of this. I understand the struggles, I understand the divide. It's not something leftist movements in particular deal with, it's something any movement would struggle with once they even have an ideology instead of a power fantasy.

        I see the current issues between Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn as a sign of an authentic party instead of a money or power grab.

        I urge you to stay rational, inform yourself, and continue supporting them until they disobey their ideals. As a member of the German left, I can tell you that it's never easy supporting a left party, this is simply the first hurdle.

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        • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

          I will support whatever left party comes out of this. I understand the struggles, I understand the divide. It's not something leftist movements in particular deal with, it's something any movement would struggle with once they even have an ideology instead of a power fantasy.

          I see the current issues between Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn as a sign of an authentic party instead of a money or power grab.

          I urge you to stay rational, inform yourself, and continue supporting them until they disobey their ideals. As a member of the German left, I can tell you that it's never easy supporting a left party, this is simply the first hurdle.

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          An official membership portal has opened to join Your Party in the UK!

          πŸ”— https://smplu.link/your-party-uk

          With an internal member system, public profiles, an event list that you can even add to, as well as lots of more info. I'm quite surprised at how professional this is for a starting party. I'd be lying if I was saying Die Linke in Germany wouldn't be envious of this... I wish best of success to the party of Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn! πŸ•ŠοΈ

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          • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

            An official membership portal has opened to join Your Party in the UK!

            πŸ”— https://smplu.link/your-party-uk

            With an internal member system, public profiles, an event list that you can even add to, as well as lots of more info. I'm quite surprised at how professional this is for a starting party. I'd be lying if I was saying Die Linke in Germany wouldn't be envious of this... I wish best of success to the party of Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn! πŸ•ŠοΈ

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            @ErikUden

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            • expertenkommision_cyberunfall@mastodon.socialE expertenkommision_cyberunfall@mastodon.social

              @ErikUden

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              @expertenkommision_cyberunfall I'm certain the site is currently under heavy load...

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              • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

                An official membership portal has opened to join Your Party in the UK!

                πŸ”— https://smplu.link/your-party-uk

                With an internal member system, public profiles, an event list that you can even add to, as well as lots of more info. I'm quite surprised at how professional this is for a starting party. I'd be lying if I was saying Die Linke in Germany wouldn't be envious of this... I wish best of success to the party of Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn! πŸ•ŠοΈ

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                @ErikUden ok, but is this one real this time??

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                • erased_citizen@cupoftea.socialE erased_citizen@cupoftea.social

                  @ErikUden ok, but is this one real this time??

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                  @Erased_Citizen I believe that what is real and what isn't can only be determined in hindsight. My personal theory is that considering how many sign-ups either side has, they'll make a new deal of how to continue to settle this internal power struggle. I'm a member on both platforms.

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                  • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

                    An official membership portal has opened to join Your Party in the UK!

                    πŸ”— https://smplu.link/your-party-uk

                    With an internal member system, public profiles, an event list that you can even add to, as well as lots of more info. I'm quite surprised at how professional this is for a starting party. I'd be lying if I was saying Die Linke in Germany wouldn't be envious of this... I wish best of success to the party of Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn! πŸ•ŠοΈ

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                    YOUR PARTY IS BACK πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 🚩

                    Internal struggles seem to have been resolved – Zarah Sultana and the rest of the interim leadership of Your Party are now working together again. All of the people who signed up last week are as valid members as those who will sign up now. No split, no two parties, no more confusion.

                    The, among other, union backed movement β€œOur Party” is still welcomed and their councils and open letter is taken seriously.

                    This is the best result to have come out of this debacle.

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                    • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

                      YOUR PARTY IS BACK πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 🚩

                      Internal struggles seem to have been resolved – Zarah Sultana and the rest of the interim leadership of Your Party are now working together again. All of the people who signed up last week are as valid members as those who will sign up now. No split, no two parties, no more confusion.

                      The, among other, union backed movement β€œOur Party” is still welcomed and their councils and open letter is taken seriously.

                      This is the best result to have come out of this debacle.

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                      i am not answering this DM

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                      • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

                        i am not answering this DM

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                        Jeremy Corbyn remains the most favorite UK prime minister and favorite leftist (or non-right wing) politician. The left should unite behind YourParty 🚩

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                        • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

                          Jeremy Corbyn remains the most favorite UK prime minister and favorite leftist (or non-right wing) politician. The left should unite behind YourParty 🚩

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                          @ErikUden That graph looks fishy. 12+60+29 = 101?30+8+63=101? Rounding errors?
                          I also notice that JC seems to be seen as less favourable than Farage...

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                            @ErikUden That graph looks fishy. 12+60+29 = 101?30+8+63=101? Rounding errors?
                            I also notice that JC seems to be seen as less favourable than Farage...

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                            @grumpydad yes, I'd assume it's rounding errors! My source is: https://x.com/YouGov/status/1978746146467070051

                            Nigel Farage and Ed Davey are sadly more favorable than Jeremy Corbyn, he's still the most liked that by any means can be called a leftist.

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                            • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

                              Jeremy Corbyn remains the most favorite UK prime minister and favorite leftist (or non-right wing) politician. The left should unite behind YourParty 🚩

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                              @ErikUden or unite behind Polanski's green party, because stopping the end of human civilization is still the most important issue that ONLY the greens have been fighting for since Inception.

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                                @ErikUden or unite behind Polanski's green party, because stopping the end of human civilization is still the most important issue that ONLY the greens have been fighting for since Inception.

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                                @syllusg while I see that and I do welcome the better polls for the greens, I believe that combating climate change requires an (economic) system change that the greens at this point do not think fully through enough, in my opinion.

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                                • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

                                  Jeremy Corbyn remains the most favorite UK prime minister and favorite leftist (or non-right wing) politician. The left should unite behind YourParty 🚩

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                                  Your Party announced 50,000 members! Impressive for a movement that didn't exist a short time ago and that will have its founding congress by the end of this month.

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                                    Your Party announced 50,000 members! Impressive for a movement that didn't exist a short time ago and that will have its founding congress by the end of this month.

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                                    @ErikUden I feel like they should join the greens. Kinda seems like some splitting is happening

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                                      @ErikUden I feel like they should join the greens. Kinda seems like some splitting is happening

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                                      @crmsnbleyd Jeremy Corbyn is the most favorable candidate for prime minister in the UK, to a degree you could argue that the greens are doing the splitting. Actually, I am making that argument, because instead of mobilizing unpoliticized and unorganized people, like Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn have been doing, the greens have simply run a campaign against a more leftist party and tried to bring as many people over from there as possible, instead of showing the solidarity they now expect to be given.

                                      Additionally, it's kind of mean to scavenge all your new members from a bigger and larger leftist movement as it was facing struggles during the founding process, and once larger in membership size tell them to shut down operations as they're β€œsplitting the left”. Not only are the greens in the UK not a leftist party, but also have they not managed to do anything for the past decades, so why should I put my trust in them when I could instead put it into this new movement, which actually mobilized and brought people into politics?

                                      One key member (Zack Polanski) only decided he was left wing about 18 months ago, yet the Greens have always voted and acted in favour of neoliberal outcomes when it mattered, wether it was siding with the Tories and LibDems voting against the left's plan for workers rights in parliament, or not standing down in the last election in Wes Streetings constituency, giving us the most pro private health care minister we've ever had. If people were to look at what the UK Green Party actually does, rather than surfing on vibe politics, I don't think they'd be much in favor of it.

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                                      • erikuden@mastodon.deE erikuden@mastodon.de

                                        Your Party announced 50,000 members! Impressive for a movement that didn't exist a short time ago and that will have its founding congress by the end of this month.

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                                        I'm joining the founding congress of Your Party, as I'll be in London from the 26th of November to the 3rd of December and inbetween in Liverpool, of course. I'll also be attending Sultana's Eve of Conference Rally with friends of mine going to Corbyn's. If anyone reading this will be there, let me know! πŸ•ŠοΈπŸš©

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                                          I'm joining the founding congress of Your Party, as I'll be in London from the 26th of November to the 3rd of December and inbetween in Liverpool, of course. I'll also be attending Sultana's Eve of Conference Rally with friends of mine going to Corbyn's. If anyone reading this will be there, let me know! πŸ•ŠοΈπŸš©

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                                          The Greenspamming social media campaign truly is something that needs to be studied: The fact the greens in the United Kingdom existed for 35 years with little to no successful campaign beyond a few elected officials, and now just realized that they can scavenge off members from a bigger, more leftist movement than they have built, is making me question how socialist their principles are, and what solidarity means to them.

                                          Everywhere where they are seated in parliament they agree to budget cuts, they have no clear anti-imperialist position, they mainly have a leader that now calls himself socialist, which wasn't the case a year ago. They showed solidarity for the Palestinian people when it was socially acceptable to do so. On the other side, people like Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana existed, who fought for that position to become acceptable and lost their public image over it.

                                          To get most of your members through a defamation campaign against a struggling new socialist party, and to now call for solidarity, β€œjoining forces”, or forming a coalition because everything else would be β€œsplitting the vote” , exposes how shallow and instrumentalizing this campaign by the greens is.

                                          No singular member or representative of Your Party is better off joining the greens, they will be used as a marketing gimmick but never allowed into any positions. Zack Polanski is with his positions much more at odds with the UK Green Party and would be much better off at Your Party 🚩

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