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In one week, Lemm.ee will shutdown

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  • blaze@lemm.eeB This user is from outside of this forum
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    blaze@lemm.ee
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    If you are still looking for an alternative, https://lemmy.zip/ is a solid choice. Similar moderation policy than lemm.ee.

    Monthly reports: https://lemmy.zip/post/39959863

    Lots of lemm.ee users moving there: https://lemmy.zip/post/40323214

    If you are in the UK (where lemmy.zip is geoblocked due to UK laws), https://feddit.uk/ is a good option.

    You can export your subscriptions, blocks and saves from "Settings - Import/Export settings" and then import them on your new account.

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    • blaze@lemm.eeB blaze@lemm.ee

      If you are still looking for an alternative, https://lemmy.zip/ is a solid choice. Similar moderation policy than lemm.ee.

      Monthly reports: https://lemmy.zip/post/39959863

      Lots of lemm.ee users moving there: https://lemmy.zip/post/40323214

      If you are in the UK (where lemmy.zip is geoblocked due to UK laws), https://feddit.uk/ is a good option.

      You can export your subscriptions, blocks and saves from "Settings - Import/Export settings" and then import them on your new account.

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      ramble81@lemmy.zip
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      Moved over to zip no problem, but I can’t find a way to export my comments/posts. I know I can access my profile via zip but will that be cached and available after the servers are shut down?

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        Moved over to zip no problem, but I can’t find a way to export my comments/posts. I know I can access my profile via zip but will that be cached and available after the servers are shut down?

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        jet@hackertalks.com
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        No, Lemmy has a memory hole problem right now. All the content you created is only on the servers online and federated at the time you created it. Once those servers go offline, for any reason, that content is gone

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        • J jet@hackertalks.com

          No, Lemmy has a memory hole problem right now. All the content you created is only on the servers online and federated at the time you created it. Once those servers go offline, for any reason, that content is gone

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          4am@lemm.ee
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          Incorrect, that content is mirrored to any of the instances that federated with Lemm.ee and will continue to be accessible; although if you interact with any of it after Lemm.ee is gone, that interaction (vote, comment) will only be visible on the instance on which you did it.

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          • J jet@hackertalks.com

            No, Lemmy has a memory hole problem right now. All the content you created is only on the servers online and federated at the time you created it. Once those servers go offline, for any reason, that content is gone

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            whimsy@lemmy.zip
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            As far as I understood, the already posted/federated content is stored by each instance in its database. The pictures/media might be gone but the text should be copied around depends on (de)federation policies

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            • J jet@hackertalks.com

              No, Lemmy has a memory hole problem right now. All the content you created is only on the servers online and federated at the time you created it. Once those servers go offline, for any reason, that content is gone

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              ramble81@lemmy.zip
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              Not quite right there. The comments exist on all the other federated servers as they’re sent out as part of the ActivityPub protocol. The problem is there will no longer be an easy way to aggregate them. Posts may disappear. But comments won’t.

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              • 4 4am@lemm.ee

                Incorrect, that content is mirrored to any of the instances that federated with Lemm.ee and will continue to be accessible; although if you interact with any of it after Lemm.ee is gone, that interaction (vote, comment) will only be visible on the instance on which you did it.

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                jet@hackertalks.com
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                If instances A B C are online and federated when you post, then A B C have copies of the data

                Let's say A shuts down and you move to a new instance D

                Only B and C have your old content. D has none of your data. There is no backfill mechanism

                If in the future B and C go offline (eventually they will) then the data is gone. Maybe in a archive.org snapshot.

                Even in the future if D E F G still are going strong and Lemmy is thriving all the content that only A B C saw is gone. It's a bitrot problem

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                • W whimsy@lemmy.zip

                  As far as I understood, the already posted/federated content is stored by each instance in its database. The pictures/media might be gone but the text should be copied around depends on (de)federation policies

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                  jet@hackertalks.com
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                  Yes that's correct, new instances don't backfill old content. Only the servers online and federated at the time of posting will have the content.

                  If you migrate to a new instance that wasn't online or federated earlier it won't have your old content

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                  • R ramble81@lemmy.zip

                    Not quite right there. The comments exist on all the other federated servers as they’re sent out as part of the ActivityPub protocol. The problem is there will no longer be an easy way to aggregate them. Posts may disappear. But comments won’t.

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                    jet@hackertalks.com
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                    There is no backfill mechanism. Only the servers online and federated at the time of posting will have the content. New servers will not. If you move to a new server it won't have your old content

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