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Apparently /r/democrats on Reddit is deleting any posts about Mamdani, and people are mad and unsubscribing because of it

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    philipthebucket@quokk.au
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    It's so fucking weird. I'm accustomed enough to people on Lemmy SWEARING that they aren't allowed to talk about [thing which is only controversial to Fox News boomers] and "they" will delete it if you even try, that I assumed this was crap too, but it seems like it's true.

    From the community rules:

    R5: No posts about Democratic Socialists or Third Parties

    • No posts about Democratic socialists

    Apparently they use this to delete Bernie stuff.

    WTF, why would people subject themselves to this

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      It's so fucking weird. I'm accustomed enough to people on Lemmy SWEARING that they aren't allowed to talk about [thing which is only controversial to Fox News boomers] and "they" will delete it if you even try, that I assumed this was crap too, but it seems like it's true.

      From the community rules:

      R5: No posts about Democratic Socialists or Third Parties

      • No posts about Democratic socialists

      Apparently they use this to delete Bernie stuff.

      WTF, why would people subject themselves to this

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      sunshine@piefed.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      This is one reason why people decide to become tankies.

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        This is one reason why people decide to become tankies.

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        Honestly, to me it reads as a reason why Reddit and Lemmy both have a broken moderation model.

        If I feel like posting a politics things where politics people can read it, and I am not (in the majority view of the readers) being a twatface about it, there is no earthly reason why some greasy-fingered negative Nelly should be empowered to control my ability to do so. Let alone set "rules" for what is or isn't allowed systematically. The whole thing is fuckin' stupid. It makes no difference from my point of view whether it be Tankies or establishment Democrats or whoever else privileged to put their thumb on the scales.

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        • philipthebucket@quokk.auP philipthebucket@quokk.au

          Honestly, to me it reads as a reason why Reddit and Lemmy both have a broken moderation model.

          If I feel like posting a politics things where politics people can read it, and I am not (in the majority view of the readers) being a twatface about it, there is no earthly reason why some greasy-fingered negative Nelly should be empowered to control my ability to do so. Let alone set "rules" for what is or isn't allowed systematically. The whole thing is fuckin' stupid. It makes no difference from my point of view whether it be Tankies or establishment Democrats or whoever else privileged to put their thumb on the scales.

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          there is no earthly reason why some greasy-fingered negative Nelly should be empowered to control my ability to do so. Let alone set “rules” for what is or isn’t allowed systematically.

          That sounds like you have a general problem with the concept of a moderation irrespective of where it is.

          I see you're a moderator on a handful of Lemmy Communities. Do you enforce no rules? Do you let anyone post anything they want irrespective of how off topic or inflammatory it is?

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            there is no earthly reason why some greasy-fingered negative Nelly should be empowered to control my ability to do so. Let alone set “rules” for what is or isn’t allowed systematically.

            That sounds like you have a general problem with the concept of a moderation irrespective of where it is.

            I see you're a moderator on a handful of Lemmy Communities. Do you enforce no rules? Do you let anyone post anything they want irrespective of how off topic or inflammatory it is?

            philipthebucket@quokk.auP This user is from outside of this forum
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            It's not the off topic or the inflammatory stuff I'm talking about, that stuff I think everyone can agree on. I am saying that the model that Reddit and Lemmy enforce encourages people to create rules like "no democratic socialists" or "no electoralism" or "you can't criticize Russia" that are widely seen by the populace as ridiculous and oppressive.

            For example, Slashdot used to parcel out duties pretty similar to moderation to random members of the community after they'd been around for a while and participating and getting upvotes (sort of). That worked fine. It kept out the crap without encouraging people to start to wield their power to try to craft the narrative and create these little echo chambers that Lemmy seems to be beset with here and there.

            And yes, I allow people to post stuff that doesn't fit my narrative. I think all moderators should do the same.

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            • philipthebucket@quokk.auP philipthebucket@quokk.au

              It's not the off topic or the inflammatory stuff I'm talking about, that stuff I think everyone can agree on. I am saying that the model that Reddit and Lemmy enforce encourages people to create rules like "no democratic socialists" or "no electoralism" or "you can't criticize Russia" that are widely seen by the populace as ridiculous and oppressive.

              For example, Slashdot used to parcel out duties pretty similar to moderation to random members of the community after they'd been around for a while and participating and getting upvotes (sort of). That worked fine. It kept out the crap without encouraging people to start to wield their power to try to craft the narrative and create these little echo chambers that Lemmy seems to be beset with here and there.

              And yes, I allow people to post stuff that doesn't fit my narrative. I think all moderators should do the same.

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              partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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              It’s not the off topic or the inflammatory stuff I’m talking about, that stuff I think everyone can agree on.

              The more I experience humanity the less I find of things "everyone can agree on".

              I am saying that the model that Reddit and Lemmy enforce encourages people to create rules like “no democratic socialists” or “no electoralism” or “you can’t criticize Russia” that are widely seen by the populace as ridiculous and oppressive.

              You'll never find me defending Reddit. I left it for many reasons and Lemmy is now my home. You give a few examples of rules you don't like (which I appreciate for context of understanding). However, one rule I'd have is "no white supremacists" and while I think that would be a pretty standard rule, audiences today are finding that objectionable, which is insane to me.

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              • philipthebucket@quokk.auP philipthebucket@quokk.au

                It's so fucking weird. I'm accustomed enough to people on Lemmy SWEARING that they aren't allowed to talk about [thing which is only controversial to Fox News boomers] and "they" will delete it if you even try, that I assumed this was crap too, but it seems like it's true.

                From the community rules:

                R5: No posts about Democratic Socialists or Third Parties

                • No posts about Democratic socialists

                Apparently they use this to delete Bernie stuff.

                WTF, why would people subject themselves to this

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                Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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