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CPU scam: Chuwi CoreBook X uses AMD Ryzen 5 5500U instead of 7430U

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  • robottoaster@mander.xyzR robottoaster@mander.xyz

    It's odd they found this in the unit the manufacturer sent them for review. With this kind of scam they would normally make sure the review models had the correct processor. I wonder if this was done by a supplier or subcontractor without them knowing.

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    floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    Can these processors use the same motherboard? It might be a big effort to make a custom one for review, more than just dropping in another part. And more costly too, if it meant redesigning other parts.

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    • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

      Can these processors use the same motherboard? It might be a big effort to make a custom one for review, more than just dropping in another part. And more costly too, if it meant redesigning other parts.

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      empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Yes all these processors coming from the same generation will use the same socket/BGA pattern and similar BIOS firmware.

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      • empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comE empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Yes all these processors coming from the same generation will use the same socket/BGA pattern and similar BIOS firmware.

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        floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        They're from different generations though. 5500U is Zen 2 while 7430U is Zen 3.

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        • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

          They're from different generations though. 5500U is Zen 2 while 7430U is Zen 3.

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          empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          That's my bad for not remembering AMD's fucking atrocious nonstandard mobile chip naming schemes.

          That said, I went and looked up both models, they are both listed as using the FP6 interface. So they are electrically and mechanically compatible, likely just needing a bios update, my point is still valid.

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          • empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comE empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            That's my bad for not remembering AMD's fucking atrocious nonstandard mobile chip naming schemes.

            That said, I went and looked up both models, they are both listed as using the FP6 interface. So they are electrically and mechanically compatible, likely just needing a bios update, my point is still valid.

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            partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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            That’s my bad for not remembering AMD’s fucking atrocious nonstandard mobile chip naming schemes.

            Atrocious compared to Intel? The first CPU with the name Core i7 was released in 2008, but Intel is still releasing a CPU named Core i7 as recently as 2023. They both suck, but in different ways.

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              That’s my bad for not remembering AMD’s fucking atrocious nonstandard mobile chip naming schemes.

              Atrocious compared to Intel? The first CPU with the name Core i7 was released in 2008, but Intel is still releasing a CPU named Core i7 as recently as 2023. They both suck, but in different ways.

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              empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Everyone's nomenclature sucks after 2016. Model numbers don't mean anything is what I mean lol

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              • empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comE empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                Everyone's nomenclature sucks after 2016. Model numbers don't mean anything is what I mean lol

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                partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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                Honestly, we know where the root of this problem came from. Back in the 1990s Intel broke with convention of using ever increasing numeric model numbers

                • 8086
                • 8088
                • 80186
                • 80286
                • 80386
                • 80486
                • Pentium ...wait, what?! Not 80586? Nope.

                Intel didn't like that other CPU manufacturers of x86 CPUs (AMD, Cyrix, IBM) could use the same numbering scheme. So Intel created "Pentium" because it could be copyrighted/trademarked so other companies couldn't use it.

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                • P partial_accumen@lemmy.world

                  Honestly, we know where the root of this problem came from. Back in the 1990s Intel broke with convention of using ever increasing numeric model numbers

                  • 8086
                  • 8088
                  • 80186
                  • 80286
                  • 80386
                  • 80486
                  • Pentium ...wait, what?! Not 80586? Nope.

                  Intel didn't like that other CPU manufacturers of x86 CPUs (AMD, Cyrix, IBM) could use the same numbering scheme. So Intel created "Pentium" because it could be copyrighted/trademarked so other companies couldn't use it.

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                  kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  There is no 80486. It's called the i486.

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                  • K kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    There is no 80486. It's called the i486.

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                    partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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                    #11

                    Such a confident answer! And so incorrect too!

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                    • P partial_accumen@lemmy.world

                      Such a confident answer! And so incorrect too!

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                      kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      That's a model number, not a name. The first Pentium had a model number of A80501, but you wouldn't seriously claim that it's really the 80501, would you?

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                        That's a model number, not a name. The first Pentium had a model number of A80501, but you wouldn't seriously claim that it's really the 80501, would you?

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                        partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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                        #13

                        Read my prior post, I specifically SAID it was a model number.

                        You're embarrassing yourself with your pedantry. You said 80486 didn't exist. It did. Seriously, quit while you're behind here.

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                        • P partial_accumen@lemmy.world

                          Read my prior post, I specifically SAID it was a model number.

                          You're embarrassing yourself with your pedantry. You said 80486 didn't exist. It did. Seriously, quit while you're behind here.

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                          kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Oops, my mistake, you were wrong about the Pentium, then, not the 486. Its model number, as I said, was A80501. You switched from model numbers to names.

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                          • K kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            Oops, my mistake, you were wrong about the Pentium, then, not the 486. Its model number, as I said, was A80501. You switched from model numbers to names.

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                            partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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                            Oops, my mistake

                            Apology accepted. Have a great day!

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